I struggle to find sympathy for the WASPI women. The example given of Janet "expecting to retire in 2013 subsequently had to work several years more due to sudden changes in the law" is ridiculous. The law changed in 1995, 18 years before Janet was due to retire. We can discuss whether 18 years is sufficient notice, but it certainly doesn't qualify as "sudden"!
Dave, you’re missing the point. We were not notified. If you were a low wage earner because that’s what nature’s ability gave you, how do you put back anything like a private pension cost? You will still be working as hard as a person earning a grand wage plus private pension thrown in but totally disadvantaged by the situation. When ill health occurs it compounds the problem. We have been treated appallingly by all governments since this was orchestrated very cleverly out of our sight in 1995. The tax man can find you to let you know but the DWP can’t/won’t?
As always it’s not the Will power it’s the won’t power of government that have failed so many.
In 1996 I applied for a mortgage, I wasn't allowed a 25 year mortgage as the Bank expected me to retire at 60. My Bank didn't know differently, I didn't know, nobody knew.
That's the point, we didn't get 18 years notice. Wish I had of, I could have paid a bit more into a company pension to lessen the loss. If you think that making women wait an extra 6 years losing in the region of £45/50k while men only had to wait one year then you should read the rules of contracts and how they should not be breached. Only the Government could get away from this, a private pension provider would have been taken to task for fraud!
Dave - you are absolutely missing the point. The Ombudsman has found maladministration-surely that highlights the main issue? This was done in the name of “equality” which is ironic as the majority of women did not have “equality” during the 40+ years they worked! I would also highlight that not one man has had to wait an additional SIX years for their pension!
I'm a waspi woman and we were not told that our pensions were stopped, I was informed in 2013 2 yrs before I was 60 ..... I have worked all my life rasped 4 children and also cared for parents ..... so if you reread the report you will find that we were not informed correctly it was put in the financial Times
Late to the conversation, but all the same Dave it is maladministration on a grand level AND is gender related. It would not be possible for a man to understand. That is because you weren't pregnant for 9 months each time you had a baby, then the year following any birth at home being a mother with no income of recognition of that IMPORTANT job. These babies we had are now working and paying our pensions. It's not a money thing, although we all need it. It's more about the lack of time we had to reorganise ourselves financially. I had to sell my house as I only found out 2 years before 60years old that I had to work a further 6 years before my state pension could be claimed. My divorce settlement included the fact that I would have a state pension at 60. I have lost £57,750 due to that.
Now the Covid pandemic followed by "cost of living crisis". Its impossible almost. My retirement bears no resemblance to the one I had planned. I have never claimed benefits and always used any savings I had to finance myself in times of no work. I finally had to sell again and am now renting a property. Its exhausting. The situation needs to be acknowledged. This probably doesn't make you change your understanding Dave, but there is one story in millions of the same.
Come on, I gave birth to 4 children all wanted reared them , worked unsocial hours , cooked, cleaned and a hundred and one different things to keep the wolf from the door, my husband and I had our retirement mapped out , I lost him to Alzheimer's 3 years ago, I'm 67 and we looked forward to my retirement at 60 , born in 1955 I've paid tax etc for over 40yrs , knackered, robbed and in bad health, pay us what you robbed government
I don't even think it was maladministration, I think it was downright illegal what they did.
I struggle to find sympathy for the WASPI women. The example given of Janet "expecting to retire in 2013 subsequently had to work several years more due to sudden changes in the law" is ridiculous. The law changed in 1995, 18 years before Janet was due to retire. We can discuss whether 18 years is sufficient notice, but it certainly doesn't qualify as "sudden"!
Dave, you’re missing the point. We were not notified. If you were a low wage earner because that’s what nature’s ability gave you, how do you put back anything like a private pension cost? You will still be working as hard as a person earning a grand wage plus private pension thrown in but totally disadvantaged by the situation. When ill health occurs it compounds the problem. We have been treated appallingly by all governments since this was orchestrated very cleverly out of our sight in 1995. The tax man can find you to let you know but the DWP can’t/won’t?
As always it’s not the Will power it’s the won’t power of government that have failed so many.
In 1996 I applied for a mortgage, I wasn't allowed a 25 year mortgage as the Bank expected me to retire at 60. My Bank didn't know differently, I didn't know, nobody knew.
That's the point, we didn't get 18 years notice. Wish I had of, I could have paid a bit more into a company pension to lessen the loss. If you think that making women wait an extra 6 years losing in the region of £45/50k while men only had to wait one year then you should read the rules of contracts and how they should not be breached. Only the Government could get away from this, a private pension provider would have been taken to task for fraud!
Dave - you are absolutely missing the point. The Ombudsman has found maladministration-surely that highlights the main issue? This was done in the name of “equality” which is ironic as the majority of women did not have “equality” during the 40+ years they worked! I would also highlight that not one man has had to wait an additional SIX years for their pension!
The Ombudsman found nothing wrong with the 5 year change in 1995 and has identified an unrelated 28 month period.
I'm a waspi woman and we were not told that our pensions were stopped, I was informed in 2013 2 yrs before I was 60 ..... I have worked all my life rasped 4 children and also cared for parents ..... so if you reread the report you will find that we were not informed correctly it was put in the financial Times
Late to the conversation, but all the same Dave it is maladministration on a grand level AND is gender related. It would not be possible for a man to understand. That is because you weren't pregnant for 9 months each time you had a baby, then the year following any birth at home being a mother with no income of recognition of that IMPORTANT job. These babies we had are now working and paying our pensions. It's not a money thing, although we all need it. It's more about the lack of time we had to reorganise ourselves financially. I had to sell my house as I only found out 2 years before 60years old that I had to work a further 6 years before my state pension could be claimed. My divorce settlement included the fact that I would have a state pension at 60. I have lost £57,750 due to that.
Now the Covid pandemic followed by "cost of living crisis". Its impossible almost. My retirement bears no resemblance to the one I had planned. I have never claimed benefits and always used any savings I had to finance myself in times of no work. I finally had to sell again and am now renting a property. Its exhausting. The situation needs to be acknowledged. This probably doesn't make you change your understanding Dave, but there is one story in millions of the same.
Come on, I gave birth to 4 children all wanted reared them , worked unsocial hours , cooked, cleaned and a hundred and one different things to keep the wolf from the door, my husband and I had our retirement mapped out , I lost him to Alzheimer's 3 years ago, I'm 67 and we looked forward to my retirement at 60 , born in 1955 I've paid tax etc for over 40yrs , knackered, robbed and in bad health, pay us what you robbed government